I have been a member of Web Ring.com for approximately 3 months, maybe. I have donated 30+ dollars. For this I get excellent web site promotion ( I can check, I get many hits from Web Ring Hubs), I manage 45 rings, basically with a free hand. Most of my members are satisfied. We communicate well. I have, I believe over 1100 members in my rings. 99% of my problems have been resolved by WR in a timely and satisfactory manner. Now, as I view the forum, I wonder, is everyone really that mistreated by WR.com? Just a thought...look at what you get for the dollar you spend.